Clan stats, 4/30/16

Hello Outliers! Good day today.

Clan score down only because of personnel moves.

JA down 59, DP up 20, UA down 7.

We had 13 win, 5 lose, 25 no change, 2 transfers, and 1 retired.

Winners included LovelyH3 (44, wow); ShilohElijah (16); Miimario123 (15); TrueTheGuru (10); AstraIwyrm (9); JCTan (8); Grenadier235 (7); Gourd (5); Freak76 and Arissa1009 (4 ea); Darkholme1906 and Restcase (2 ea); Microwave1 (1).

Thanks for all this!

Jungle Wars: Top level bombers versus max walls

Here's a picture that can save me a lot of words. It took 20 level 6 bombers to get through these Level 10 and 11 walls. They did not make it to the final ring. My "technique" was to release them all at once.

My bombers were being shot at the whole way but they went in with gorillas and dinos which absorbed most of the fire.

Once this player upgrades the outer wall the defense may hold up for two inner rings...

Clan stats, 4/29/16

Hello Outliers! Good day today: we gained 12 clan cups.

We had 12 players gain cups, 6 lose and 27 with no change.

JA was up 3, DP up 27 and UA down 1.

Leading the way were Microwave1 (17); Miimario123 (14); AstraIwyrm (8); Darkholme1906 and Janatik (7 ea); Nogeenkip and Cowbow29 (6 ea); Shadowsliver (3); TruetheGuru and Restcase (2 ea); Gourd and Cdr0 (1 ea).

Please keep it going.

Jungle Wars vs. Clash of Clans

The one question I am asked most often is "Do you play Clash of Clans?"

I do not and never heard of it except via questions like this. For a long time I thought Jungle Wars preceded CoC but a clanmate says CoC predates JW by 5-6 years.

Assuming people want to contrast and compare the games, feel free to use the comments field below.

If no one comments, I will assume total loyalty to Jungle Wars (and that's good).

Postscript, 5/1: From the Armor instance:

Postscript, 5/2: From LovelyH3: "Have you heard the name of clash of clans: it is similar game as jungle wars, same rule but different name. There is town hall instead of totem. If you search in Google for "town hall" (the level your totem is) you can find good ideas for bases. I got mine (for JW) from there." 

Clan stats, 4/28/16

Hello Outliers! Fine day! 11 up, 3 down, 31 no change.

Outliers gained 16 cups, JA lost 9, DP gained 15, UA gained 2.

Winners included Miimario123 (20, good); Microwave1 (15); Gourd (12); Freak76 (7) ***Congrats on breaking 1000, Freak76***; Darkholme1906 and Ash05 (3 ea); Zatzat_411, AstraIwyrm and Cmdr0 (2 ea); Arissa1009 and Restcase (1 ea).

Thanks all. I will be writing you individually tomorrow on the state of the clan. It's all good.

Jungle Wars: A Clan called "Monkey Butt"

Over at Armor Games, there is a Jungle Wars clan called "Monkey Butt."

They take their recruiting ads seriously.

Meanwhile, if my gorillas had shotguns like this one, I'd rank much higher.

Clan stats, 4/27/16

Nice work today, Outliers!  We had 12 who won, 2 who lst and 31 with no change. Outliers gained 17 cups, JA dropped 5, DP gained 12 and UA gained 6.

Winners included: BlakeG22 (25, good); Microwave1 (15); Pyroman62 (14); Miimario123 (11); Nogeenkip (7); Arissa1009 and TruetheGuru (6 ea); Darkholme1906 (5); AstraIwyrm (4); Zatzat_411 (3); Gourd and Restcase (1 ea).

Great stuff, thanks!

Clan stats, 4/26/16

Hello Outliers! Tough day today: 8 gained, 6 lost, 31 with no change.

Outliers rose 12 cups, JA gained 8, DP saw no change and UA rose 5.

Winners included Microwave1 (15); Blasophemia (14); Cmdr0 (10); Chanonry (7); Darkholme1906, Ash05, Arissa1009 and Restcase (2 ea).

Let's get out of these doldrums...

Jungle Wars: Are three coins random?

Jordanfa asks if the award of three coins after some victories is random.

Over in Kong, Talt24 answers that it's based on the quality of the attack - it's not random. Here is the comment:

The system rewards cheap victories and it punishes expensive victories.

"Punish" may not be the right word because if the attacker plays overkill, he will still win at least one cup but the system will take away clan cups.

But if the attack is with cheap troops, with fewer spells and no golem, three coins may be awarded. As Talt says, it depends on how the system calculates the strength of the defense vs. the strength of the attack.

Astralwyrm, formerly number 1, relies heavily on warriors, even at his level.

What is randomly distributed is gems. Or so it seems.

Clan stats, 4/25/16

Hello Outliers, big day today.

Lost some cups when someone went to Camp but 14 players up, 5 down, 25 no change.

Winners included Miimario123 (46, wow); Ash05 (16); Pyroman62, Microwave1 and Blasophemia (14 ea); Darkholme1906 (11); Grenadier235 (9); Cowbow29 and TruetheGuru (8 ea); Cmdr0 (7); BlakeG22 )6); Gourd (5); Restcase (4); Arissa1009 (3).

Keep up this great work!

Jungle Wars: Neutralizing Totem 11 (continued)

The theory that the Totem 11 glitch can be neutralized by a fast win has been contradicted:

Jordanfa denied that he was attacked but then MasterKeys said

In sum, (1) Can't beat Totem 11 bug and (2) Only the attacker knows an attack has happened.

Oh, and one more effect worth noting:

Agree? Comments welcome.

Clan stats, 4/24/16

Hello Outliers! Seesaw action today with 10 losing, 10 winning and 26 with no change.

Outliers went up 21, JA down 2, UA up 12, and DP saw no change.

Winners included Gourd (9); Darkholme1906, Ash05 and TruetheGuru (8 ea); JKL3022 (6); AstraIwyrm (5); Blake and Aleena1009 (4 ea); Arissa1009 (3) and Restcase (2).

See you for more fighting tomorrow.

Jungle Wars: "Life" in a dead clan

Here we play the Kongregate instance of Jungle Wars, but yonder in Armor Games' instance, an  interesting post appeared about what it means to be in a dead clan.

If you have six requests for troops, what is going on???

Over here in Kong, the dead clans take a different flavor. One player asks for troops, nothing ever happens, player fades out. Meanwhile, Polly here points out crazy, selfish players.

At Kong, we have three live clans (and maybe another small one) full of team effort. This (above) is a disgrace.

My avatar at Armor has NEVER received troops from the clan. If the Armor players came over to Kong (even to start over), the dynamic would be incredible.

Clan stats, 4/23/16

Hello Outliers! Quiet day. Clan score up do to traffic between Academy and here.

We had 7 players up, 3 down, 35 with no change and 1 rejoined.

JA was up 5, DP down 3, UA up 10.

Winners included Microwave1 (33, very good); BlakeG22 (14); Miimario123 (9); Darkholme1906 (4); Grenadier235 (2); Aleena1009 and Restcase (1 ea).

Thanks for livening a slow day!

Jungle Wars: Beating Totem 11?

Nice conversation in Kongregate's Jungle Wars chat today on beating Totem 11. It was suggested that you win if you score 100% before the clock runs out.

In that case, no Oops! error results. Comments?

Jungle Wars: Totem 11 glitch (continued)

One of our clan players who has Totem 11 noticed that he cannot build worker hut 5. The system freezes if the attempt is made.

He can build other things, though.

Is this yet another side effect of Totem 11?

Word to the wise: build your fifth hut before you upgrade that Totem 10.

Clan stats, 4/22/16

Hello Outliers! Busier day today: 11 players up, 5 down, 29 no change.

Outliers is up 11. JA was down 17, DP up 39, UA down 6.

Winners today included Miimario123 (17); Microwave1 (13); AstraIwyrm and Cmdr0 (6 ea); Chanonry (5); Stu75, Darkholme1906 and Quoin1 (3 ea); Zatzat_411, Aleena1009 and Restcase (2 ea).

Keep at it, please.

Jungle Wars: Balance

Talt24 over at Kongregate's instance of Jungle Wars told a new player that the system seeks a balance among players and clans.

This hits home when I look at my target list right now. I am the number 5 player and my clan is number three.

If I select ATTACK, I have to hit NEXT 20 or so times to get a target from one of the bottom 47 clans. I get only targets from three clans: UA (#1), DP (#2), and Outliers Academy (#12).

Think about that: a third of the target villages the system gives me comes from one clan ranked 12! Not clan #4-11, no never.

What is it about Outliers Academy? It's an active clan. It seems to be limiting targets to active clans. At the same time when I do get to hit a dead clan, the system scales the number of cups lost by that clan to a very low level.

Balance. Ideas, comments?

Clan stats, 4/21/16

Hello, Outliers! Mixed bag today: 5 players up, 6 down, 34 no change and 1 returned.

JA rose 8 cups, DP rose 9, UA rose 4.

Winners included: Massimone1 (13); Gourd (11); Janatik (2); Darkholme1906 (2); and Zatzat_411 (1).

Thanks all and I will drum up some more playing among the clan.

Clan stats, 4/20/16

Hello Outliers!

Tough day: 7 winners, 8 who lost, 30 no change and one moved to Academy.

Winners included Questingraven (17); Miimario123 (12); JKL3022 (8); Aleena1009 (4); TruetheGuru (3); Restcase (2); Gourd (1).

Better days are coming, please keep fighting.

Clan stats, 4/19/16

Hello, Outliers! Mix of big and little stuff today.

The clan is up 19 and 8 players rose, 2 fell, 37 saw no change.

JA was down 18, DP saw no change, UA fell by 4.

Winners included Microwave1 (67, wow); Miimario123 (31, very good); Gourd (24, good);
Darkholme1906 (4); Zatzat_411 (3); Ash05 and Restcase (2); Aleena1009 (1).

Thanks everyone!

Clan stats, 4/18/16

Hello Outliers, good day. The clan gained 91 cups to reach 13,200. JA lost 9 cups, DP lost 69, and UA gained 13.

A player came back to Outliers and another new player joined.

We had 10 players win, 5 lose, 30 with no change, 1 new and 1 returned.

Winners included Gourd (22, good); Questingraven and and BlakeG22 (14 ea); Shilohelijah (13); AstraIwyrm (6); Darkholme1906 and Zatzat_411 (4 ea); Arissa1009 and Restcase (2 ea).

Thanks everyone, we just need a little more activity.

Clan stats, 4/17/16

Hello Outliers! Quiet day today.

We had 9 win cups, 2 lose them, 34 with no change and 1 player rejoin.

Three top players went to Outliers Academy: our score dropped 200 cups. Outliers Academy rose from 12th place to 11th, closing in on 10th.

Leading our winners today: Miimario123 (14 cups); Gourd (11); TrueTheGuru (10); Aleena1009 (9); Cowbow29 (7); Darkholme1906 (4); Restcase (3); Ash05 (2); Arissa1009 (1).

Thanks all, let's keep at it.

Clan stats, 4/16/16

Hello Outliers! Pretty good day with 12 up, 6 down, 29 no change, 1 returned and 1 was new.

With transfers, we were down 170; JA was down 12, DP was down 31, UA was up 12.

Meanwhile, Outliers Academy reached 12th place in clan rankings.

Our winners included Bidircan1977 (62, wow!); Miimario123 (26, good); Blasophemia (16);

Questingraven (15); Aleena1009 (13); Cowbow29 and Quoin1 (7 ea); Darkholme1906 (6);

Gourd, TruetheGuru and Restcase (3 ea); Cmdr0 (2).

Upward and onward! Thanks.

Jungle Wars: Neutralizing Totem 11

Over in Kongregate JW chat, Outliers co-leader Ash05 suggests that a way to neutralize Totem 11 may be to hit it with five max lightning spells, then launch troops and then surrender as soon as the thing is destroyed.

Drakeboone points out that 6850 points might be more strength than the spells can destroy.

Totem 11 gives an Ooops error after any normal victory, so this may be the only way to beat Totem 11 players.

Anyone want to try?

Clan stats, 4/15/16

Hello Outliers! Great day again. We had 13 players win, 4 lose, 1 new and 32 with no change.

We gained 136 cups., JA lost 7, DP gained 16 and UA saw no change.

We passed JA by more than 2000 cups; we can go to the next phase of our plan. Our score will vary accordingly.

Winners included Quoin2 (32 cups, very good); Petlore (13, nice debut); Schlomotion and Zatzat_411 (11 ea);

Bidircan1977 (10); Chanonry (7); Darkholme1906 (5); Redwood23Spooky, TruetheGuru, Aleena1009, Ash05 (4 ea);

Gourd and Arissa1009 (3 ea).

Thanks team! Welcome our new players.

Clan stats, 4/14/16

Hello Outliers! Lots of action today: 14 won cups, 3 lost, 29 saw no change, and two players rejoined.

Outliers rose 15 cups, JA rose 2, DP lost 19, UA gained 16.

If we had only 3 down players, our policy of attacking the bottom 46 clans is working - no revenge.

Winners included: Darkholme1906 (21, good); Questingraven (17); Minecraft36099 (16);

Bidircan1977 and Zubzubzub4000 (14 ea); Ash05 and Camprest (12 ea);

Cowbow29 and Aleena1009 (7 ea); Tough02 (6); Gourd (4); Arissa1009, Schlomotion and Restcase (2 ea).

Let's keep it going - about 150 cups before we enter a new phase.

Jungle Wars: archived tips

If you are new to this site, please scroll through the archives to find Jungle Wars tips and tricks.

Clan stats, 4/13/16

Hello Outliers! Clan record set today: 17 won, 2 lost, 29 no change.

Outliers rose by 18 cups, JA lost 5, DP gained 5 and UA gained 2.

We are about 150 cups away from reaching our goal of a 2,000 cup lead over JA.

Please focus your attacks on JA and the bottom 47 clans.

Winners included: Camprest (16); Questingraven and Blasophemia (14 ea);

Ashclone3 (6); Arissa1009 and Cmdr0 (5 ea); TrueTheGuru (4);

Pyroman62, Bidircan1977, Zatzat_411, Ash05, Tough02, AstraIwyrm and Schlomotion (3 ea);

Darkholme1906, Aleena1009 and Restcase (2 ea).

Thanks and thanks again!

Clan stats, 4/12/16

Hello Outliers! Good progress today.

Outliers gained 14 cups while 11 players were up, 5 were down and 32 saw no change.

JA lost 7, DP gained 6, and UA gained 17.

Winners included Bidircan1977 (19); TrueTheGuru (10); Redwood23Spooky (7);

Darkholme1906 (6); Cowbow29 (5); Gourd, Arissa1009, Zatzat_411 and AstraIwyrm (3 ea);

Restcase (2); Ash05 (1).

Please continue! Thanks.

Clan stats, 4/11/16

Hello Outliers, lots of action today with 16 players up, 8 down, 23 no change. The clan gained 24 cups.

JA gained 4, DP gained 15, UA gained 5.

Winners included Darkholme1906 (19); Zubzubzub4000 (16); Questingraven, Freak76 and Zatzat_411 (14 ea);

Ashclone3 (9); Quoin1 (8); Aleena1009 (7); AstraIworm and Tough02 (4 ea);

Arissa1009 and Camprest (3 ea); Cmdr0 and Restcase (2 ea);  Ash05 and Gourd (1 ea).

We'll break 13,300 tomorrow - thanks all.

Clan stats, 4/10/16

Hello Outliers! Tough day but we gained 10 cups. 11 players gained, 12 lost and 25 saw no change.

JA gained 1 cup, DP gained 13, UA lost 18.

Leading the way: Minecraft36099 (67 cups, great debut); Bidrican 1977 (23, good);

Shilohelijah (16); Schlomotion (10); Zatzat_411, Nogeenkip and TruetheGuru (8 ea);

Ashclone3 (7); InAFlash (4); Gourd and Restcase (1 ea).

Good participation, team. (I am curious as to which clan is hitting so many of us...)

Jungle Wars: Rhino level 4

For what it's worth, here is a screenshot of rhino upgrade from level 3 - 4.

I'm hoping that with enough upgrades, my rhinos become useful.

Clan stats, 4/9/16

Hello, Outliers! Good day with 26 cups gained and 16 players up, 7 down, 1 new and 24 no change.

JA was down 10, DP up 14 and UA up 5. Our focus now is on opening the gap with Jungle Army. Please do not attack and get into revenge cycles with DP or UA. Save it for later.

Attack the dead clans (the bottom 47) and no revenge will occur.

Our winners: Quoin1 (17); Shilohelijah (14); Bidircan1977 (11);

Redwood23Spooky (8); Darkholme1906 and Ashclone3 (6 ea);

Grenadier235, Cmdr0, Tough02 (5 ea); Zatzat_411, Gourd, TrueTheGuru (4 ea); Restcase (3);

Ash05 and Schlomotion (2 ea); Arissa1009 (1).

Thanks everyone, good progress!

Clan stats, 4/8/16

Hello Outliers! Big advance today with 56 more cups; 11 players won, 6 lost, 29 saw no change and 1 rejoined.

JA dropped 6, DP gained 3 and UA lost 23.

Our winners included Aleena1009 (17); Questingraven (9);

Nogeenkip, TrueTheGuru and Schlomotion (7 ea); Cowbow29 and Tough02 (6 ea);

Gourd (3); Zatzat_411 and Restcase (2 ea); Darkholme1906 (1).

Good work, everyone!
(Stats at outliersclan.blogspot.com)

Clan stats, 4/7/16

Big day, Outliers! Clan gained 28 and 18 players added cups, only 4 lost cups and 25 saw no change.

JA was up 11, DP up 27 and UA was down 8.

Our winners included Quoin1 (33, vg); Bidircan (27, good); Questingraven (15);

Cmdr0 (12); Tough02 (11); Grenadier235, Redwood23Spooky and Chanonry (8 ea);

Schlomotion, Restcase and Camprest (5 ea); Arissa1009 and Ashclone3 (4 ea);

Darkholme1906, Zatzat_411, Shadowsliver and TruetheGuru (3 ea); Aleena1009 (1).

We are gaining clan score every day, thank you.

Jungle Wars: Best defense ideas and examples

There are a few simple ideas for defending in Jungle Wars:

(1) Build your village so the attacker has to go through three walls to reach the totem.

(2) Give your high value buildings the most protection.

(3) Place towers within firing range of each other (3 protecting 3 is good)

(4) Place your clan headquarters near the totem so clan troops can defend the totem

(5) Protect mortars so they can keep firing the longest

(6) Upgrade weapons, priority to mortars, least of all magic towers

Tricks and tips
If enemies are deploying on the edge of your village to bring out your fast golem and kill it, change gems so that your golem becomes very slow. Place your slow golem near the totem. Enemies will not be able to kill the golem quickly with cheap troops because the golem will enter the battle later.

If you are being hit with pters, ask your clan mates for shaman defensive troops before signing off. When you are attacked, shaman and slingers will fire at birds but shaman can bring them down fast.

Here are some tricky village shapes.

(1) Cells

This player has created a lot of cells for attackers to work through. It eats up their time to work through so many walls. His mistake is that the attacker only needs to break two walls to reach the totem.

(2) Cloverleaf

This player created four mini villages, each of which has good mutual fire support. Usually this shape is closed up, but this player left the ends open, which makes it a kind of swastika pattern. Not only does the attacker have to deal with four mini villages, the bombers will not attack the walls, they will run down the North-South-East-West streets until they are killed.

(3) Maze

There are different shapes of mazes and they all have openings that draw in attackers who then run down a killing track. The maze depends on good, interlocking mutual fire support. If the shooters are too far apart, the attacker will knock them out, one by one. The swastika is a kind of maze that we have posted about before.

For more reading on defense, see these blog posts:

Where to place your clan headquarters

How much space to leave between walls

Are walls worth it?

How the system scores the attack

Problem layouts

As always, comments welcome.

Clan stats, 4/6/16

Hello Outliers! Our clan won 47 cups with 9 players up, 10 down, 1 new and 27 with no change.

Welcome PetLore and goodbye Deathking9990.

JA lost 6 cups, DP saw no change and UA gained 12.

Winners included: Quoin2 (64, wow); TrueTheGuru (24, good); Darkholme1906 (11); Aleena1009 (9); Redwood23Spooky (8); Shadowsliver (5); Gourd (3); Ash05 and Restcase (2 ea).

Thanks everyone! Stats to outliersclan.blogspot.com

Clan stats, 4/5/16

Hello Outliers! Quite a day. The clan advanced 3 cups with 13 players up, 9 down and 25 no change.

Leading the way: Shadowsliver (27 cups, good); Questingraven (18); Zubzubzub4000 (17);

Arissa 1009 (15); Shilohelijah and Quoin1 (13 ea); Bidircan1977 and Cmdr0 (5 ea);

Darkholme1906, Ash05, Restcase, and Tough02 (2 ea); and Gourd (1).

Thanks everyone - a shame the wins did not bring in more clan cups.

Clan stats, 4/4/16

Hello Outliers! Good day for us: 12 players were up, 10 down and 25 w/no change. The clan gained 21 cups.

JA saw NC, DP dropped 90 cups and UA gained 22.

To open the gap between us and 4th place, please focus attacks on JA and lower clans.

This will save you from revenge and save you and the clan many cups.

Our winners included: InAFlash (30, very good); Bidircan1977 (26, good); Shadowsliver (24, good);

Questingraven (17); Quoin2 (14); Aleena1009 (10); Gourd and Schlomotion (6 ea);

Ashclone3 (4); Zatzat_411 (3); Ash05 and Restcase (2 ea).

Please keep up this great work!

Clan stats, 4/3/16

Hello Outliers, fine day! The clan gained 23 cups with 15 players up, 7 down, 1 new and 24 no change.

JA dropped 10, DP dropped 7, UA gained 19. PLEASE focus on JA. We need to lead them by 2000 points.

If you attack a top 2 clan, revenge will follow. Move us ahead by attacking clans #4 and below. Dead clans will not revenge attacks and you will save cups. Thanks.

Winners: Shadowsliver (28, good); Bidircan1977 (16); Blasophemia (14);

Ash05 and Darkholme1906 (12 ea); Aleena1009 and Ashclone3 (10 ea);

Grenadier 235 (welcome back!) and Camprest (7 ea); Restcase and Schlomotion (4 ea);

Gourd, Swordwrath, Chanonry and Tough02 (2 ea).

Thanks everyone, great play!

Jungle Wars: Armor Games versus Kongregate

Well, 72 hours later, my 49 clanmates over at Armor Games' instance of Jungle Wars have sent me NO speedups and NO troops. When I complained on public chat, Morbidchicken13 (from another clan) spoke up (right),

Think about what he is saying. What would the game be like with 50 clans, thousands of villages and only 20 active players?

(1) You never suffer a revenge attack
(2) You don't get attacked much at all
(3) Your most important attacking unit becomes the necromancer because of all the graves

A very different game than we experience in Kongregate where one clanmate noted he had been attacked three times today.

The whole Armor Games experience is spooky, you're moving through  ghost cities. And these were once formidable places! Look at the stats below:

A dying civilization over there? How to revive it?

Clan stats, 4/2/16

Another record breaking day for the Outliers with 15 players winning cups, 5 losing and 27 with no change.

We again won 31 cups; JA lost 10, DP gained 14 and a new player; UA gained 11.

Winners included Bidircan1977 (45 awesome cups); Blasophemia (19); Camprest (12);

Shadowsliver (10); Gourd, Aleena1009 and TruetheGuru (9 ea);

JKL3022 (8); Redwood23Spooky (7); Cmdr0 (5); Schlomotion (4); Ashclone3 (3);

Ash05 and Tough02 (2 ea); and Restcase (1).

Bidircan1977 says this is the most active clan. Believe it!

Jungle Wars: Best targets for newer players

A promising newer player asked me today for some advice on targeting foes. He is at the 1000 level, but this advice is good for anyone:

Regarding #2: a dead clan has no clan troops in the HQ building. A dead clan member will not retaliate either because that player has quit long ago.

Healthy signs that there will be no revenge: gravestones, rocks, trees, pottery.

Keep clicking NEXT until you get a near match to these criteria.

Clan stats, 4/1/16

Hello, Outliers! Another record-setting day with 18 who won, 5 who lost and 24 with no change.

Outliers gained 31 cups, JA lost 4, DP gained 6 and UA lost 1. Old friend Grenadier chipped in today, too.

Our winners included Shadowsliver (34, very good); Quoin1 (15);

Darkholme1906 and Questingraven (14 ea); AstraIwyrm (12); Cowbow29 and Aleena1009 (8 ea);

Zatzat_411 (7); Grenadier235 and Tough01 (6 ea); Cmdr0 (5); Gourd, Chanonry and Schlomotion (4 ea);

TruetheGuru (3); Ashclone3 (2); Ash05 and Restcase (1 ea).

This is great work, team. Many thanks!